Seems like the public issue could be solved by requiring an NDA from anyone that wanted to see the information. I also imagine people would only need to see high level summary not the actual contract. On Aug 24, 2011, at 3:32 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > Keith, > > I would be amazed if any major hotel or convention centre would allow its > bid to be made public in this way. I too am disturbed by the Taipei hotel > rate, but I know from my own time on the IAOC that matching bids, dates, > hosts and all the other constraints is essentially an insoluble problem. > > It would be interesting if someone with historical data could plot IETF > hotel and meeting fee costs over the years since 1986, normalized to take > account of inflation and trade-weighted currency variations. I really > can't guess what the outcome would be. > > Regards > Brian Carpenter > > On 2011-08-25 09:12, Keith Moore wrote: >> Maybe there needs to be some sort of voting system for future venues. >> >> You'd be eligible to vote if you'd attended an IETF anytime within the past, say, 2 years - or if you were willing to commit to attending the one you vote on if it wins. (say by putting down a deposit toward meeting fees). >> >> Instead of picking one venue, the committee would solicit bids from N (say 3-4) different venues within a geographic region. The bids would include: >> room cost per night in the conference hotel >> room cost per night in each of some small number of alternate hotels >> locations of said hotels and nature of transportation between there and the conference venue >> meeting fee for the entire week if that venue is chosen >> other pertinent information (like what kind of food is nearby, what kind of facilities there are in or near the venue for impromptu gathering, what kinds of sightseeing opportunities there are, etc.) >> The committee would survey attendees from time to time and tell the prospective venues what kinds of criteria the attendees found important, so they'd know how best to make their pitch. >> >> Every eligible voter would get one vote. There would be a strict deadline for submitting bids, and a strict deadline for voting. >> >> That way, everyone could figure his own travel costs, factor in his own willingness to stay further away for less cost, etc. >> >> Keith >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ietf mailing list >> Ietf@xxxxxxxx >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf