>>>>> "Melinda" == Melinda Shore <melinda.shore@xxxxxxxxx> writes: Melinda> On 08/24/2011 07:47 AM, Keith Moore wrote: >> Maybe they don't realize it, but at that point they're actively >> working to exclude participation from those not supported by >> large companies or governments. Melinda> It seems to me that this is a very, very important point. I'd like to underscore this poin. I'd like to make two others. 1) We don't have to go to any particular location. There has been an assumption made by people in this discussion that sometimes when we pick locations with particularly expensive hotels, we'll get particularly expensive meetings. That's great except that we were the ones who chose to go to those locations. If we can't meet our cost targets at a location, go somewhere else. 2) If I had to say yes or no in a parliamentary vote of confidence in the IAOC, today my answer would probably be no. I feel that a lot of concerns have been raised, and I don't find the responses very convincing. When I've looked into issues with the IAOC, I haven't found the visibility necessary to really evaluate things. That to me is not a good combination. _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf