On 25/08/2011 13:06, Keith Moore wrote: > On Aug 25, 2011, at 2:13 AM, Henk Uijterwaal wrote: > But on what basis are the options discarded by IAOC, if the different options > aren't examined to at least the level of detail that I suggested? I think it is more a continuous process. Start with a number of options, investigate them in more detail, discard options as one goes along, work out the 100,000 little details that need to be taken care of with the most promising site only, then decide if the overal package is a good one. If not, repeat for the next site. >> Do we really want to increase fees just to have more options? > > Not more options, but more transparency into the selection and more assurance > that the selection is made on the basis of what people really want or don't > want. There are a lot of requirements, 1,000 participants who all prioritize them in different ways and there is no venue that meets all requirements. Thus whoever makes the selection will have to weigh all requirements and find a solution that is optimal for most people. The IETF has picked a model were a small set of people make this selection for the rest of the group. If you don't trust that they are trying their best to make the optimal selection, then there is a fundamental problem that cannot be solved by providing more documents, voting processes, etc. >> Not true: it is not possible (nor sensible) to buy plane tickets 2 years in >> advance and a lot of things can change in between. > > True. Though broadly speaking, if it's expensive to fly somewhere today, > it's unlikely to be cheap to fly there in two years. Not always, here in Europe, one often sees price-fights between various airlines if a destination suddenly becomes popular for some reason or another. (And also the opposite: prices go up if the number of competitors on a route drops). Henk -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Henk Uijterwaal Email: henk(at)uijterwaal.nl http://www.uijterwaal.nl Phone: +31.6.55861746 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ There appears to have been a collective retreat from reality that day. (John Glanfield, on an engineering project) _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf