RE: [P2PSIP] How to describe the processing power

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If there is an API for setting the amount of resources in RELOAD implementations, would this be done per usage or overall for RELOAD. That would affect what and how we report stuff in the diagnostics.

I think the comon CPU stats are still useful along with which we could report some number set up by the user that specifies the resources.

 

Different topology plugin apps could then use different heuristics to perform neighbor selection based on this information depending on what they are aimed at. I agree that what is proposed here should both help debug an overlay as well as help in populating some metrics data which can then be used by topology plugins.

 

On a related note, would metrics collected using a Chord topology plugin be useful to a Pastry topology plugin. Due to the use of nodeids it may be hard to reuse this information across topology plugins.

 

Thanks,

Saumitra

 

From: Roni Even [mailto:ron.even.tlv@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 6:35 AM
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Subject: RE: [P2PSIP] How to describe the processing power

 

Song Haibin,

Your response " It is also useful in selecting peer for a neighbor table entry, when there are multiple choices existing and for the overlay management to collect the overall status of the overlay."  does also address Bruce question. My view is that the pure CPU power or CPU current usage are good but the question is if they are relevant for the decision  since the user may limit the amount of resources it wants to allocate for the p2p application. This may be based on percentage from the link or number of connections.

 

Roni Even

 

From: p2psip-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:p2psip-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Song Haibin
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 5:07 AM
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Subject: Re: [P2PSIP] How to describe the processing power

 

Dear Das,

 

See inline.

 


From: p2psip-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:p2psip-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Das, Saumitra
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 5:12 PM
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Subject: Re: [P2PSIP] How to describe the processing power

 

Dear Song,

 

   Processing power would be more informational in terms of CPU load. A good example of what would be useful would be to look at the comon monitoring tool (http://summer.cs.princeton.edu/status/) for the planetlab testbed. It uses the following metrics for selecting nodes based on CPU and I have found such selection to be very useful in determining the performance of a slice on the machine.

 

[Song] It is also useful in selecting peer for a neighbor table entry, when there are multiple choices existing and for the overlay management to collect the overall status of the overlay.

 

 

From the comon site, these are some metrics that may be useful

 

“CPU Speed
Busy CPU
Sys CPU
Free CPU
These fields give some insight into the CPU behavior of the node. The CPU Speed is just the speed of the processor in gigahertz. The Busy CPU field gives the % of time the CPU is utilized, and the Sys CPU field specifies what percentage of time the CPU is spending in the OS. Both of these values are the maximum values over the past 5 minutes. The Free CPU indicates how much of the CPU a spin-loop was able to obtain, giving some insight into how much of the node's CPU a new slice would receive.”

 

We could define these fields and leave it optional as to whether all of them are required. i.e. running a spin-loop may be expensive for some devices.

 

[Song] This is helpful. I’m very glad to see this monitoring tool in the planetlab testbed. If it works well in the planet lab, we may have it included in the diagnostics draft after discussion. I also see other useful metrics for other parameters in the page (http://summer.cs.princeton.edu/status/).

 

 

 

 

Best,

Saumitra

 

www.saumitra.info

 

Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 15:12:21 +0800

From: Song Haibin <melodysong@xxxxxxxxxx>

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Dear all,

 

In p2psip diagnostics draft

http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-zheng-p2psip-diagnose-03.txt

, we have some doubt about how to describe one of the diagnostic

information: processing power. We propose to use the unit of MIPS to describe it. However, the Max number of connections may be another choice.

Do you have any good suggestions?

 

 

Best Regards,

Song Haibin

Email: melodysong@xxxxxxxxxx

Skype: alexsonghw

 

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