On Fri, 28 Jul 2023 17:27:36 +0000, Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > [1 <multipart/signed (7bit)>] > [1.1 <multipart/alternative (7bit)>] > [1.1.1 <text/plain; utf-8 (quoted-printable)>] > > > > >> I also know many people whoʼs IETF participation and work is self funded and are not part of big corporations And are major contributors. > > > > And I think there's never been an IETF in recent memory where there weren't budget hotels nearby. If the local host can also arrange nearby student-hostel style rooms, that's a good idea, of course. > > > For example, right around the corner from the Hilton is the HI San Francisco Downtown Hostel. > > https://www.hiusa.org/find-hostels/california/san-francisco-312-mason-street > > Has both shared and private rooms. > I don't mean to point back to 'days of yore' attendees lists, but .. for several meetings in a row I posted links to: yahoo-maps bing-maps google-maps search result for hotel stays at/around the venue, all of which were invariably 50% of the hotel rate. It takes 'as much effort' to book the conference venue as it does to book literally any other place in the 3-6 block distance. Pointing to specific places has no impact on folks who can clearly NOT adult and find a hotel on any mapping application on the internet. Perhaps that was Bob's point here though?