Intimating that people who can't find low-cost hotels near the venue are not capable of "adulting" doesn't help.
The point of requesting identifying low cost options and making those explicit sends a signal to would-be attendees
1) that the community/organization has thought about those who are not on corporate travel budgets
2) It has checked out the hotel (on a site visit) and it is "ok" and not a bad place to stay. (this can be very hard discern on the internet ). <-- so maybe this can be added as something that the staff who do scouting look for on visits.
3) there might be a critical mass of other budget oriented attendees at the same venue and then folks can navigate to the main venue together or from social events etc. So that you aren't just "staying all by yourself".
I know that when I have attended international events and the ONLY option pointed at/suggested is a $300+ a night hotel - it says "this event is for people who have the kinda money - as in 2-3k a week for lodging". This is about signaling as much as it is about practicalities.
- Kaliya
On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 3:01 PM Chris Morrow <morrowc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Fri, 28 Jul 2023 17:27:36 +0000,
Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> >> I also know many people who’s IETF participation and work is self funded and are not part of big corporations And are major contributors.
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> > And I think there's never been an IETF in recent memory where there weren't budget hotels nearby. If the local host can also arrange nearby student-hostel style rooms, that's a good idea, of course.
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> For example, right around the corner from the Hilton is the HI San Francisco Downtown Hostel.
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> https://www.hiusa.org/find-hostels/california/san-francisco-312-mason-street
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> Has both shared and private rooms.
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I don't mean to point back to 'days of yore' attendees lists, but
.. for several meetings in a row I posted links to:
yahoo-maps
bing-maps
google-maps
search result for hotel stays at/around the venue, all of which were
invariably 50% of the hotel rate. It takes 'as much effort' to book
the conference venue as it does to book literally any other place in
the 3-6 block distance.
Pointing to specific places has no impact on folks who can clearly NOT
adult and find a hotel on any mapping application on the internet.
Perhaps that was Bob's point here though?
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