Re: Harassment, abuse, accountability. and IETF mailing lists

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Tim Bray wrote:

On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 10:19 AM Keith Moore <moore@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I am not sure that I agree.   I can certainly see how what you describe
could happen.  But the Politeness Police have themselves discouraged
participation in IETF, at least in part because some of them were every
bit as arrogant and demeaning as your example statement above, and
worse, AND they had the backing of the organizational leaders.

What we have is at best anecdata, but I strongly disagree.  I have personal experience with wonderful people who have walked away saying some variation on "all those pissy greybeards waiting to pounce".  Don't personally know anyone who (a) has walked away because of the "politeness police" and (b) is regretted.

Be kind. It doesn’t hurt.


Doesn't hurt.  But then again, a bit of snark doesn't hurt either - particularly when dealing with clueless newbies with bad cases of Dunning-Kruger syndrome, particularly when coupled with prickly personalities, quick-to-take-offense, on behalf of others.  The folks who are the true barrier to getting useful work done.

Miles Fidelman

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Practice is when everything works but no one knows why. 
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