Re: [Last-Call] [OPS-DIR] Opsdir telechat review of draft-ietf-anima-constrained-join-proxy-10

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Jürgen Schönwälder <j.schoenwaelder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
    >> Since the communication is stateless, you have observed that any node on the
    >> network can impersonate the Registrar, send what appears to be reply traffic
    >> towards a join proxy (from the secured/authenticated side of the network),
    >> and the traffic will get sent to the unauthenticated/insecure side of the network.

    > I think there are two scenarios to consider. My understanding is that
    > we have this situation:

Let me label the networks:

    > Pledges --(a)-- Proxy --(b)-- Registrar

    > 1) A malicious pledge sending spoofed requests to the Registrar where
    > the answer then hits some other target pledge.

(a) operates unencrypted (or perhaps weakly encrypted with a well-known key)
(b) operates encrypted.

A malicious pledge can not send traffic on network (a) purporting to be from
network (b).   So I don't think that this can happen.
The proxy should not respond to malicious traffic on the (a) network.

    > 2) A malicious node on the network where the Registrar resides using
    > the proxy to send messages to arbitrary pledges.

Yes, I agree that this can happen.

    > While doing bad things to the registrar is one aspect, there is also
    > the aspect of doing bad things to pledges, no?

Yes, they could, and the could do this directly using unencrypted LL packets.


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