> On 7 Jun 2022, at 02:51, John C Klensin <john-ietf@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > I think the problems arise when almost any attempt to be > critical is interpreted as being at least disrespectful even if > not actually rude. That’s certainly a problem to watch out for along with other blatant abuses of power. In my experience though, that is rare and what is far more common is a situation that begins with someone being both critical and rude at the same time, and then descends into a downward spiral of people talking across each other - one group for whom the rudeness is the main issue and and one group for whom the criticism is the main issue. I often see those in the latter group interpreting any admonishment for the rudeness as targeting for being critical and therefore an abuse of power. Jay > > john > > > -- Jay Daley IETF Executive Director exec-director@xxxxxxxx