On 2020-07-29 15:32, Bron Gondwana wrote: > On Wed, Jul 29, 2020, at 21:39, Salz, Rich wrote: >> Yes, some dismiss that as "virtue signaling." But being virtuous is a good thing :) > > Virtue signalling is not synonymous with being virtuous. Being virtuous is supporting a charity (modulo the goodness of the charity of course), virtue signalling is posing outside a charity for the > perfect Instagram photo and the associated street cred. > > It's possible to be both virtuous and give off signals about it of course. To bring it back to the specific here: often one gets in the way of the other tho > >> I think providing a clear indication that we are trying to be inclusive is important.. > > It seems to be me that most of the debate in this thread boils down to: "is this effort is a clear signal that we're serious about trying to be inclusive rather than facile pandering to a particularly > noisy political group?", and an associated "would publishing something like this be effective and attract people who want to make the Internet work better by producing high quality, relevant technical > documents that influence the way people design, use, and manage the Internet?" excellent summary of the whole thread