Re: F42 Change Proposal: Fedora Plasma Workstation (System-Wide)

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On Thu, 4 Apr 2024, 16:35 Kevin Kofler via devel, <devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Neal Gompa wrote:
> By default, GNOME only presents the close window button. The other
> buttons are missing, and there isn't really an intuitive way to
> discover the other window management actions.

In the version I tried, and judging from end user reports, for several
years, it did not even present that, leading to fun issues such as some KDE
dialogs that could not be closed at all (because they were missing a "Close"
button and relying on the window decoration exclusively).

>> "the shut down options in the mouse menu hidden behind a keyboard dead
>> key, etc.)" this is also not the case for ages, or at least not in its
>> completeness.
>
> Yes, this did change a few GNOME releases ago.

Of course, having only tried GNOME 3 once, I could not know this.

Of course the right thing to do when faced with a topic where you lack knowledge is to not throw shade and either learn it first or decide others know better and not comment.

What has been really awkward about this proposal is that instead of focussing on the benefits of Plasma, it's used as more of an axe to grind about gnome. Not unexpected considering the lead proposer.

However that is not helpful.

If you need to define gnome in order to promote plasma, you are doing it wrong.

        Kevin Kofler
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