Re: F42 Change Proposal: Fedora Plasma Workstation (System-Wide)

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On Thu, Apr 4, 2024 at 4:38 AM Vít Ondruch <vondruch@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>
> Dne 04. 04. 24 v 0:44 Kevin Kofler via devel napsal(a):
> > Leon Fauster via devel wrote:
> >> I already had RHL installed on a Sun IPX with Gnome, so I'm biased.
> > Interesting that you were not put off by the changes that have happened to
> > GNOME since the old RHL days. I tried GNOME 1 at one point long ago, it was
> > actually pretty good. (It was very configurable back then. Remember when it
> > shipped Enlightenment as the window manager, how many options that had?)
> > Then GNOME 2 came, removing much of the configurability of GNOME 1. And then
> > GNOME 3 came, removing AGAIN much of the remaining configurability of GNOME
> > 2, leading to a very hardcoded experience. GNOME 2 was already too much for
> > me, and I switched back to KDE, back because I had already tried KDE 1.1.1
> > on another distro. And I have never looked back.
> >
> > Well, actually, I wanted to be fair and give GNOME 3 a chance, so I tried it
> > out once. But it took less than 10 minutes for me to realize that it is not
> > for me. The user experience is just too unfamiliar (the unified application
> > menu and open window selector (launch menu AND task bar replacement), the
> > always maximized windows, the lack of a system tray, the shut down options
> > in the mouse menu hidden behind a keyboard dead key, etc.), and GNOME does
> > not make it easy for you to change it. (You can actually get a pretty
> > standard desktop experience nowadays if you install a lot of "unbreak this",
> > "unbreak that" GNOME Shell extensions, but that kinda defeats the point of
> > GNOME.) The default experience felt pretty much unusable to me personally.
>
>
> Uh, from your description, I would really have hard time to decipher you
> are talking about Gnome 3.
>
> "the always maximized windows" what is this about? Maybe you are missing
> some maximize/normalize buttons.
>

By default, GNOME only presents the close window button. The other
buttons are missing, and there isn't really an intuitive way to
discover the other window management actions.

> "the shut down options in the mouse menu hidden behind a keyboard dead
> key, etc.)" this is also not the case for ages, or at least not in its
> completeness.
>

Yes, this did change a few GNOME releases ago.


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