On Wed, 2024-04-03 at 20:24 +0200, Marc Deop i Argemí wrote: > > Let's assume that we all agree with what you stated ( and I personally partly > do). > > Why do we promote Workstation (with Gnome) over any other alternative that > might arise? (in this case, a Fedora Workstation KDE) It's an interesting question. I would say my answer is "because it works better if we promote *something*". Forcing the choice on people who just want "desktop Fedora" is awkward. The reason we default to GNOME is because we ~always have. To me, this is a reasonable justification. Change is always uncomfortable and disruptive. If you have two equally good options and you already picked one, you should stick with it, not just switch between them every so often for the sake of it. If Plasma were demonstrably, markedly and uncontroversially *superior* to GNOME (please don't take this as an excuse to start a holy war, I am positing for the sake of this post that neither of the two is demonstrably, markedly and uncontroversially better than the other), the case would be different. > I understand that the Change Proposal is about switching the "Workstation" > concept to using Plasma KDE and that approach might have been flawed but... how > do we challenge the "status quo" where everybody assumes that Fedora's default > is Gnome? Again personally, I would set a very high bar for this to happen, purely on the grounds of conservatism. Don't change for the sake of change. I would only support changing Fedora's default desktop if it was very clear that the current default was sufficiently flawed that it was hurting the project. I don't think we are at that point. > And I am not arguing for the sake of arguing. I genuinely want to know how to > make Fedora's default to be Plasma KDE because I do believe the whole *linux* > (and Fedora's) community will benefit from having a major distro like Fedora > not defaulting to Gnome. There already is at least one. The most prominent download option for openSUSE is their "Offline image" (equivalent of our old Everything DVD), and the top item in the list of possible "roles" for the system (effectively the choice we are discussing here) is "Desktop with KDE Plasma" (at least in the screenshot in the install guide). -- Adam Williamson (he/him/his) Fedora QA Fedora Chat: @adamwill:fedora.im | Mastodon: @adamw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx https://www.happyassassin.net -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
