On Wednesday, 3 April 2024 01:48:47 CEST Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Tue, Apr 02, 2024 at 04:06:45PM -0400, Steve Cossette wrote: > > Alright, so a substantial amount of information changed since the original > > submission of the change proposal. We aren't necessarily thinking of > > demoting Gnome. The overall spirit of the CP is that we think KDE, and to > > some extent the other spins too, need a bit more visibility on the > > website. > > At the very least, Gnome and KDE should be up front on the frontpage. > > So, I am far from a web designer, but if you aren't a Linux savvy person > and just decided to try out this Fedora thing because you heard it was > nice and you go to download it and get: > > our website: Want a workstation? > user: yes! > > our website: great! We have Gnome and KDE! > user: what? what does that mean? which one should I get? > > our website: > > Gnome: "Get things done with ease, comfort, and control. > An easy and elegant way to use your computer, > GNOME is designed to help you have the best possible computing experience." > > KDE: "Powerful, multi-platform, and for everyone > Use KDE software to surf the web, keep in touch with colleagues, friends > and family, manage your files, enjoy music and videos; and get creative > and productive at work. The KDE community develops and maintains more > than 200 applications which run on any Linux desktop, and often other > platforms too." > > User: ok, that didn't tell me much, whats the difference? > perhaps I will just keep using windows. > > Ok, thats obvously somewhat tounge in cheek, but if we promote multiple > things, we need some way to describe them to uses who might not know the > history of things and do it in a quick enough way that they won't decide > it's all confusing and go do something else. > > kevin Let's assume that we all agree with what you stated ( and I personally partly do). Why do we promote Workstation (with Gnome) over any other alternative that might arise? (in this case, a Fedora Workstation KDE) I understand that the Change Proposal is about switching the "Workstation" concept to using Plasma KDE and that approach might have been flawed but... how do we challenge the "status quo" where everybody assumes that Fedora's default is Gnome? Because somebody else has mentioned that is unlikely that the KDE Spin can be promoted to an Edition because it "overlaps" with the current Workstation... And I am not arguing for the sake of arguing. I genuinely want to know how to make Fedora's default to be Plasma KDE because I do believe the whole *linux* (and Fedora's) community will benefit from having a major distro like Fedora not defaulting to Gnome. Best regards, Marc PS: thanks for the feedback to everybody :-) -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue