So if you only rely in things like OpenJDK (like for running Minecraft, as I do, too), then you'll be fine. If you need ant or maven, you should be fine too, since those two (and their dependencies) will continue to be maintained. But everything else ... *tumbleweeds*
Just one user's snapshot; On a not-atypical dev-box here, installed java apps are PHPStorm (upstream snap) IntelliJ* (upstream snap) Eclipse (upstream tarball) DBeaver-CE (upstream rpm) android-studio (upstream) In dev-user cases, any additional 'needed' apps are typically getting installed from upstreams -- as tarballs, snaps, flatpaks, or rpms. Seldom, if ever, from Fedora pkgs. and pkgs rpm -qa | egrep -i "java|jdk|mvn|maven" | sort copy-jdk-configs-4.0-1.fc34.noarch java-11-openjdk-11.0.12.0.7-4.fc34.x86_64 java-11-openjdk-devel-11.0.12.0.7-4.fc34.x86_64 java-11-openjdk-headless-11.0.12.0.7-4.fc34.x86_64 java-latest-openjdk-17.0.0.0.35-1.rolling.fc34.x86_64 java-latest-openjdk-devel-17.0.0.0.35-1.rolling.fc34.x86_64 java-latest-openjdk-headless-17.0.0.0.35-1.rolling.fc34.x86_64 javapackages-filesystem-5.3.0-15.fc34.noarch javapackages-tools-5.3.0-15.fc34.noarch maven-3.6.3-8.fc34.noarch maven-archiver-3.5.1-1.fc34.noarch maven-artifact-2.2.1-67.fc34.noarch maven-artifact-transfer-0.11.0-5.fc34.noarch maven-common-artifact-filters-3.1.1-1.fc34.noarch maven-compiler-plugin-3.8.1-8.fc34.noarch maven-dependency-tree-3.0.1-6.fc34.noarch maven-doxia-core-1.9.1-4.fc34.noarch maven-doxia-logging-api-1.9.1-4.fc34.noarch maven-doxia-module-apt-1.9.1-4.fc34.noarch maven-doxia-module-fml-1.9.1-4.fc34.noarch maven-doxia-module-xdoc-1.9.1-4.fc34.noarch maven-doxia-module-xhtml-1.9.1-4.fc34.noarch maven-doxia-module-xhtml5-1.9.1-4.fc34.noarch maven-doxia-sink-api-1.9.1-4.fc34.noarch maven-doxia-sitetools-1.9.2-4.fc34.noarch maven-file-management-3.0.0-12.fc34.noarch maven-filtering-3.2.0-2.fc34.noarch maven-jar-plugin-3.2.0-5.fc34.noarch maven-lib-3.6.3-8.fc34.noarch maven-model-2.2.1-67.fc34.noarch maven-plugin-bundle-4.2.1-4.fc34.noarch maven-reporting-api-3.0-21.fc34.noarch maven-resolver-api-1.4.2-5.fc34.noarch maven-resolver-connector-basic-1.4.2-5.fc34.noarch maven-resolver-impl-1.4.2-5.fc34.noarch maven-resolver-spi-1.4.2-5.fc34.noarch maven-resolver-transport-wagon-1.4.2-5.fc34.noarch maven-resolver-util-1.4.2-5.fc34.noarch maven-resources-plugin-3.2.0-2.fc34.noarch maven-shared-incremental-1.1-21.fc34.noarch maven-shared-io-3.0.0-12.fc34.noarch maven-shared-utils-3.2.1-0.8.fc34.noarch maven-source-plugin-3.2.1-4.fc34.noarch maven-surefire-3.0.0~M4-1.fc34.noarch maven-surefire-plugin-3.0.0~M4-1.fc34.noarch maven-surefire-provider-junit-3.0.0~M4-1.fc34.noarch maven-toolchain-2.2.1-67.fc34.noarch maven-wagon-file-3.4.2-1.fc34.noarch maven-wagon-http-3.4.2-1.fc34.noarch maven-wagon-http-shared-3.4.2-1.fc34.noarch maven-wagon-provider-api-3.4.2-1.fc34.noarch system-switch-java-1.1.8-5.fc34.noarch tzdata-java-2021a-1.fc34.noarch xz-java-1.8-10.fc34.noarch everything ELSE gets built locally -- either per-machine, or on our in-house distro/pgg'ing -- as needed. similarly, on not-atypical non-dev end-user around here, rpm -qa | egrep -i "java|jdk|mvn|maven" | sort copy-jdk-configs-4.0-1.fc34.noarch java-11-openjdk-11.0.12.0.7-4.fc34.x86_64 java-11-openjdk-devel-11.0.12.0.7-4.fc34.x86_64 java-11-openjdk-headless-11.0.12.0.7-4.fc34.x86_64 java-latest-openjdk-17.0.0.0.35-1.rolling.fc34.x86_64 java-latest-openjdk-devel-17.0.0.0.35-1.rolling.fc34.x86_64 java-latest-openjdk-headless-17.0.0.0.35-1.rolling.fc34.x86_64 javapackages-filesystem-5.3.0-15.fc34.noarch javapackages-tools-5.3.0-15.fc34.noarch system-switch-java-1.1.8-5.fc34.noarch tzdata-java-2021a-1.fc34.noarch and that's mostly it. And again, in _some_ end-user cases, any 'needed' end-user apps are getting installed from upstreams -- as tarballs, snaps, flatpaks, or rpms. Seldom, if ever, from Fedora pkgs. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
