On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 2:21 PM Gary Buhrmaster <gary.buhrmaster@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 7:40 PM Chris Murphy <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Bias is not the same thing as a conflict of interest. And it doesn't > > inherently result in unfairness. > > Sometimes it is a matter avoiding even the appearance > of impropriety that could be raised at a later date to > question the process/motives/decisions (which often > just delays the inevitable, but sometimes the delay is > the point). Of course voting members need to trust their instincts. I only mean to indicate bias is not the same thing as a conflict of interest; and also further that a very strong preference that's predicated on evidence and experience isn't even bias, certainly not in the prejudiced sense. Anyone who thinks their objectivity is compromised on some topic should recuse; and anyone who knows another's objectivity is compromised should feel comfortable to point this out and ask for recusal. > Regardless, I would suggest that along the way, if > FESCo does not have a set of guidelines regarding > if recusal on any vote is appropriate, they should consider > writing down whatever they decide is appropriate (or > just point to some other groups process if that is > appropriate), even if the decision is no recusal is > ever required, so we don't have this discussion all > over again in a year or two when everyone has > forgotten this one. It's reasonable to have clarity on the issue. I'm not an ombudsman or ethicist, but there is such a person or group within Red Hat who could answer this question. It might even be as straightforward as each voting member filling out a questionnaire so that their possible conflicts are known, and they can steer clear of such areas. But I think Fedora has quite a lot of compartmentalization in the organizational structure that just inherently avoids the problem. Anyway I came across this which is informative, even though it applies mainly to charities (Fedora is a non-profit so it's approximate). https://charitylawyerblog.com/2014/02/10/managing-conflicts-of-interest/ -- Chris Murphy _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
