Hi, On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 8:06 PM Miro Hrončok <mhroncok@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On 11. 05. 20 19:36, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > One strong argument for the proposed change is that, currently, an > > abstention or recusal (TIL that's the proper term) is essentially > > equivalent to a negative vote. (As long as we require +5 to pass, > > any vote apart from +1 has the same effect.) > > > > In a hypothetical case where three or four FESCo members were involved > > in a change and decided to recuse themselves, a proposal gets a very > > high bar of 5/6 or 5/7 votes. If one or two voting members are absent, > > the change may not even pass even if*all* non-abstaining members are > > in favour. > > If that is the only problem we are trying to solve here, I think we might very > well create a concept of formal recusal and only lower the bar on such occasion. I'd rather ditch the idea of a recusal. I don't really understand the reason behind it. You are on FESCo, because community voted for you to bring some expertise. When you participate in the change, you make use of this expertise, and you know what this change is all about, and how community will benefit from it. So why would we silence you from giving us the vote on the topic, if it is backed by your arguments and knowledge? And if you go for a _formal_ recuse process, how far we are going to get? Should I stop receiving a post cards from Fedora members(not that I've got any, but still :) ), so that they don't compromise my decisions, when and if these members may create a Change for Fedora? And what if I _like_ the idea of a Change and become a supporter? If I decide to work on this Change? Does it make me affiliated now? If I express support for it, should it be forbidden for me to vote? I'd rather not bring these layers of political complexities into FESCo. I believe we should be driven by the technology aspect, and your knowledge and skills don't change based on who submits a Change, you evaluate the change based on the content of the Change, and you should vote for it. > -- > Miro Hrončok > -- > Phone: +420777974800 > IRC: mhroncok > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- Aleksandra Fedorova bookwar _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
