Re: Proposal: Revise FESCo voting policy

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On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 07:13:52PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> On 11. 05. 20 18:23, Ben Cotton wrote:
> >>* To pass any measure, a majority — defined as the greater of half the
> >>eligible votes (rounded up) — must vote in favor of the measure. The
> >>standard set of eligible votes is one vote per FESCo member. No
> >>measure may pass without at least one vote in favor.
> >>
> >So in theory a proposal could pass with a vote of (+1,8,-0). This
> >seems ungreat. If many FESCo members are unwilling to provide an
> >up/down, that indicates a problem with the proposal, IMO. I'd like to
> >see this have a floor (e.g. proposals always require at least +3).
> >
> >This would also block the one-week approval (+3 and no -1 results in
> >approval currently).
> 
> 
> Also note that in the ticket, (+1,8,-0) would currently pass (in 2
> weeks), but not on a meeting, so it's kinda weird to say "this is
> not yet approved on this meeting, but will be in 2 days in the
> ticket anyway".
> 
> However, (+2,6,-1) would not even pass in the ticket currently and
> IMHO neither should it in the meeting.
> 
> If we are to change the rules, I strongly suggest we keep the
> "majority of the 9" requirement at least when there is a negative
> vote involved.

One strong argument for the proposed change is that, currently, an
abstention or recusal (TIL that's the proper term) is essentially
equivalent to a negative vote. (As long as we require +5 to pass,
any vote apart from +1 has the same effect.)

In a hypothetical case where three or four FESCo members were involved
in a change and decided to recuse themselves, a proposal gets a very
high bar of 5/6 or 5/7 votes. If one or two voting members are absent,
the change may not even pass even if *all* non-abstaining members are
in favour.

Zbyszek
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