On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 07:13:52PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 11. 05. 20 18:23, Ben Cotton wrote: > >>* To pass any measure, a majority — defined as the greater of half the > >>eligible votes (rounded up) — must vote in favor of the measure. The > >>standard set of eligible votes is one vote per FESCo member. No > >>measure may pass without at least one vote in favor. > >> > >So in theory a proposal could pass with a vote of (+1,8,-0). This > >seems ungreat. If many FESCo members are unwilling to provide an > >up/down, that indicates a problem with the proposal, IMO. I'd like to > >see this have a floor (e.g. proposals always require at least +3). > > > >This would also block the one-week approval (+3 and no -1 results in > >approval currently). > > > Also note that in the ticket, (+1,8,-0) would currently pass (in 2 > weeks), but not on a meeting, so it's kinda weird to say "this is > not yet approved on this meeting, but will be in 2 days in the > ticket anyway". > > However, (+2,6,-1) would not even pass in the ticket currently and > IMHO neither should it in the meeting. > > If we are to change the rules, I strongly suggest we keep the > "majority of the 9" requirement at least when there is a negative > vote involved. One strong argument for the proposed change is that, currently, an abstention or recusal (TIL that's the proper term) is essentially equivalent to a negative vote. (As long as we require +5 to pass, any vote apart from +1 has the same effect.) In a hypothetical case where three or four FESCo members were involved in a change and decided to recuse themselves, a proposal gets a very high bar of 5/6 or 5/7 votes. If one or two voting members are absent, the change may not even pass even if *all* non-abstaining members are in favour. Zbyszek _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx