On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 2:36 PM clime <clime@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 at 13:34, Aleksandra Fedorova <alpha@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 11:25 PM clime <clime@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > From the proposal:
> > >
> > > %if 0%{?fedora} < 32 && 0%{?rhel} <= 8
> > >
> > > The fix will be done via a pull request that states a time limit. We
> > > want the regular maintainers to see / comment / commit, but we also
> > > don't want things to stall for months and get forgotten about.
> > >
> > > ---
> > >
> > > What kind of pull request is that? It's like saying either merge or ...
> > > In other words, great way to lose community members.
> >
> > This is a better version of what proven packages already do nowadays.
> >
> > If package already has a disttag-specific conditional, and this
> > conditional leads to a build failure in the eln-environment, then we
> > need a fix for that. Here we are not talking about introducing new
> > conditionals, feature switches or dependency adjustments. We will be
> > fixing the existing conditional so that package can be built.
> >
> > Currently proven packagers fix such build failures directly. We will
> > propose changes via pull requests, so that maintainer has a
> > possibility to say "no", or to say "do it differently". But if we can
> > not get any feedback from a maintainer on it, we will fix the build
> > failure.
>
> Hi,
>
> I think it would be nice to say in the change that it's okay to say
> "no"
It is a common sense. I don't see how it can be interpreted the other way.
> and what
> ELN SIG will do in that case.
It is described as other options in the change: We talk, we look into
options, we may consider removing the conditional altogether, if it is
not relevant anymore and continue using a clean "unconditionalized"
package.
If you are asking me what I am going to do if I meet Fedora packager,
who deliberately _adds_ conditional to the package to make this
package to fail to build in the eln environment and refuses to remove
it, then the answer is - I don't know. But I will be surprised, and I
will start questioning my life choices, for sure.
> clime
>
> >
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