Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V2

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>From the proposal:

 %if 0%{?fedora} < 32 && 0%{?rhel} <= 8

The fix will be done via a pull request that states a time limit. We
want the regular maintainers to see / comment / commit, but we also
don't want things to stall for months and get forgotten about.

---

What kind of pull request is that? It's like saying either merge or ...
In other words, great way to lose community members.

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 at 21:07, Kevin Fenzi <kevin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 07:10:55AM +0000, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> >
> > I think the question about priority was asked because:
> > When installing eln by "upgrading" from rawhide, you hardly want to go
> > package by package, but instead want to do a single command to install
> > everything that can be installed. That's the first time where you want
> > eln packages to have priority.
>
> ok. It's unclear to me if there is supposed to be such a path.
> I know people in these threads have suggested it, but I don't know that
> the change owners want it.
>
> > But then rawhide moves on, and some eln packages fail to build. Then
> > you still want to keep the eln stuff (and not revert to to the rawhide
> > versions of everything), but install the rawhide versions if that is
> > the only way to satisfy dependencies.
>
> Sure, if the intent is for people to have long lived installs, but thats
> not what I got at all.
>
> > So this question is how to set up inheritance and priorities to get a
> > workable system like that. (Or maybe it's supposed to work in a
> > different way?)
>
> My understanding so far is that if you want to test it, you do a install
> from it's media, test and then destroy it until next time.
> Or if you want to test just a single or small group of packages you pull
> them and load them into your rawhide install, test, and then a update
> removes them so you are back at rawhide state for the next one.
>
> But I could be misunderstanding, or perhaps change owners do want to
> allow for longer lived installs, in which case you are right that they
> would want some way to make the eln packages 'newer' than rawhide
> instead of older.
>
> Perhaps it's time for us to add some ugly hacks to rpm and make:
>
> f > fc
> eln > f
>
> :)
>
> kevin
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