On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 12:40 AM Nicolas Mailhot <nicolas.mailhot@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > Le May 6, 2019 4:29:22 PM UTC, Chris Murphy <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit : > >On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 1:52 AM Nicolas Mailhot > ><nicolas.mailhot@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> > >> Le dimanche 05 mai 2019 à 16:14 -0600, Chris Murphy a écrit : > >> > > >> > Right and that's the same with beta testing, which is how bugs like > >> > this can sometimes not even get found until after release. A lot of > >> > tests are done on pristine systems that are throw away. It's > >entirely > >> > understandable few people want to test Fedora pre-release on their > >> > rock solid 5+ year old Fedora system, but we actually stumbled on > >> > this > >> > in some sense by luck of alternate arch acting like a canary. > >> > >> That's not true, many boot problems are found quite early in the > >> process by rawhide users, but rawhide users feedback is not taken > >into > >> account by installer folks because they don't look at boot problems > >> before quite late in the cycle, when rawhide users have already moved > >> on manually, and the default solution is always to reinstall from > >> scratch. > >> > >> So problems are found, just not fixed > > > >This is out of scope because the context of the conversation is > >upgrades. You're talking about the installer which means clean > >installs. > > I'm talking rescuing systems that do not boot anymore and that means the install media. You can't rescue a system with broken boot from within this system I have no idea what you're talking about. The context of this thread is a bug that happens during upgrades, and you do not need rescue/install media to fix it. The Common Bugs lists the step you need to successfully boot and fix the problem within this system. -- Chris Murphy _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
