On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 1:52 AM Nicolas Mailhot <nicolas.mailhot@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Le dimanche 05 mai 2019 à 16:14 -0600, Chris Murphy a écrit : > > > > Right and that's the same with beta testing, which is how bugs like > > this can sometimes not even get found until after release. A lot of > > tests are done on pristine systems that are throw away. It's entirely > > understandable few people want to test Fedora pre-release on their > > rock solid 5+ year old Fedora system, but we actually stumbled on > > this > > in some sense by luck of alternate arch acting like a canary. > > That's not true, many boot problems are found quite early in the > process by rawhide users, but rawhide users feedback is not taken into > account by installer folks because they don't look at boot problems > before quite late in the cycle, when rawhide users have already moved > on manually, and the default solution is always to reinstall from > scratch. > > So problems are found, just not fixed This is out of scope because the context of the conversation is upgrades. You're talking about the installer which means clean installs. -- Chris Murphy _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx