Le May 6, 2019 4:29:22 PM UTC, Chris Murphy <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit : >On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 1:52 AM Nicolas Mailhot ><nicolas.mailhot@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> Le dimanche 05 mai 2019 à 16:14 -0600, Chris Murphy a écrit : >> > >> > Right and that's the same with beta testing, which is how bugs like >> > this can sometimes not even get found until after release. A lot of >> > tests are done on pristine systems that are throw away. It's >entirely >> > understandable few people want to test Fedora pre-release on their >> > rock solid 5+ year old Fedora system, but we actually stumbled on >> > this >> > in some sense by luck of alternate arch acting like a canary. >> >> That's not true, many boot problems are found quite early in the >> process by rawhide users, but rawhide users feedback is not taken >into >> account by installer folks because they don't look at boot problems >> before quite late in the cycle, when rawhide users have already moved >> on manually, and the default solution is always to reinstall from >> scratch. >> >> So problems are found, just not fixed > >This is out of scope because the context of the conversation is >upgrades. You're talking about the installer which means clean >installs. I'm talking rescuing systems that do not boot anymore and that means the install media. You can't rescue a system with broken boot from within this system -- Nicolas Mailhot _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
