Tom Hughes (tom@xxxxxxxxxx) said: > > On a more general note I think a lot of people are assuming we're all > > horrible evil people, trying to subvert the One True Fedora Way. This > > is exceptionally poisonous and needs to stop, otherwise Fedora should > > to drop both the "Friends", "Features" and the "First" in its motto. > > I'm not necessarily concerned about subverting (or "changing" as I would > prefer to think of it) the One True Fedora Way, if there are good reasons to > do so and it improves things. > > I'm more concerned that there will no longer be One True Fedora Way. > > By which I mean that there will no longer be one way to update a Fedora > system because workstations and servers have to be managed in completely > different ways. > > In other words that it's no longer possible to use clusterssh to run "dnf > update" on twenty machines at once because each one is now a special > snowflake that requires it's own approach to updating things - possibly even > a mix of approaches if a developer's workstation needs "server updates" to > update postgres and apache and "workstation updates" to update gcc and > firefox. Why clusterssh when you can Ansible? But I digress. This situation already exists, though - each of these systems are already snowflakes if they're user-maintained: - some apps installed via RPMs connected to Fedora repos - some from COPRS - some from Random RPM Downloaded From Third-Party Website - some from npm/pip - containers from arbitrary registries. - curlsh stuff - things built from source If the only answer Fedora has for this is "convince everyone to only build RPMs using system reo components"... that's fighting a rear-guard battle that has already been lost. I don't think supporting Flatpak apps is necessarily any worse than what already has to happen with all of the above. Bill _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
