On 10 January 2017 at 10:08, Florian Weimer <fweimer@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 01/08/2017 01:52 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: >> >> Brendan Conoboy wrote: >>> >>> Enhancing interoperability increases the reach of Fedora and doesn't >>> require a bit of compromise on the the Freedom principle. >> >> >> Splitting a single well-integrated distribution (where all the pieces are >> known to work well together) into a bunch of loosely-coupled black-box >> modules that have no idea what libraries the other modules even contain >> actually DECREASES interoperability. > > > Only if you do not rebuild each modules from scratch (with the exception of > the build tools themselves, but which do not end up in the module). If you > do rebuild the module, the build process of each component could be made > aware what is available in the module, and integrate well with the features > which are available. > > I think this would resemble what's being done in the embedded space with > Yocto and BitBake. > Isn't that another problem? Aside from the fact you now need to rebuild dependencies of each component every time, there's now scope for package foo to be built with bar-2.1 while faa is built against bar-3.0 and fuu uses its own bundled bar which was forked off bar-1.5. While having to watch useful programs drop out (occasionally) and be replaced (or not) because they didn't keep up with the rest of the ecosystem is a bit annoying, the containerise-everything alternative means reducing the incentive for programs to keep up to date, particularly a worry for security issues, but also generally. The externally nice and shiny container may contain code well past its use-by-date, this is always my worry when someone suggests containers as a way around compatibility issues, they have their uses, but they can also amount to sweeping problems under the carpet. -- imalone http://ibmalone.blogspot.co.uk _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
