On 17/09/16 03:19, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 09:42:07AM -0700, stan wrote: >> On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 10:01:30 -0400 >> Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 05:31:31PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: >>>>>> So, what if we steer end users away from Bugzilla and >>>>>> bug-trackers completely² and to Ask Fedora³ instead? The triage >>>>>> team could [...] >>>>> But there's no triage team. Adding another layer of indirection >>>>> without a dedicated new workforce would likely just divert >>>>> resources away from the existing bug fixing process. >>>> And before anyone asks - we've tried to have a triage team several >>>> times and it has never really worked so far. It's a hard and >>>> relatively >>> >>> Right, so, this is part of the context for my idea above. There >>> *isn't* a triage team, but there *is* a community around Ask Fedora, >>> and we could build from that. It wouldn't be the same at all as >>> previous efforts to "bugzilla-garden" >> >> Wouldn't it make more sense to have a way for package maintainers to >> decide if a bug was local or upstream, and a button they could push to >> automatically send it upstream? > > Automatically? If I receive a bug upstream, I want to receive it > without the distribution's embellishments: I want to know what > *upstream* version of the software was used, how I can reproduce the > bug using generic installation from sources, and not using the distro > package, etc. Also, I don't want to read the full history on the > distribution bugtracker, I want to see a concise summary of > findings. I want to see an explanation why the bug is an upstream bug, > not a distro-specific thing. The person who is forwarding bugs has to > all of this by hand, and doing this automatically is infeasible. It could probably be made light weight though. Say a button you click that copies in the OP from the bug, pops up a box for the clicker to enter some useful text in, includes a back link to RH BZ, and creates a bug upstream with that information. Cheers, Jeff. -- Jeff Fearn Senior Software Engineer PnT - DevOps - Development Red Hat Asia Pacific Pty Ltd http://dilbert.com/fast/2004-08-17/ PGP Fingerprint: B61A DC52 3E0E B17C 94D7 945C BB37 478C F119 9BCA _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx