Re: Triaging RH Bugzilla and forwarding bugs upstream (Was: F24, small backward steps)

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On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 01:46:53PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 09:44:06AM -0500, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote:
> > I disagree in general; when the bug volume exceeds a certain amount
> > bugzilla basically becomes useless.  However, it would be really nice if
> > _someone_ looked at RH bugzilla for those packages and did something
> > with them.
> > 
> > We used to have "bugzappers".  What we really need is someone to do
> > triage and to forward bugs on to upstream when appropriate.  This
> > obviously requires volunteers.
> 
> What I'd _really_ love to see is a layer separating bug trackers from
> end users. In IT, there's often a distinction made between "incidents"
> and "problems"¹. An incident is Something Bad That Happened to A User;
> this may be caused by one or more problems. (And a single problem may
> cause multiple incidents.) In big IT shops, it's common to have
> helpdesk tickets for incidents, and those may then get linked to bug
> tickets on the backend. (Either user-visible or not, depending on the
> culture.)
> 
> So, what if we steer end users away from Bugzilla and bug-trackers
> completely² and to Ask Fedora³ instead? The triage team could [...]

But there's no triage team. Adding another layer of indirection without
a dedicated new workforce would likely just divert resources away
from the existing bug fixing process.

Zbyszek
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