On 09/07/2014 12:24 AM, Sérgio Basto wrote: >> However there is a wider problem here. The "systemd of Fedora 14/15" >> is not the systemd of today. > > I agree 100% > >> We need to decide if just because you manage to get an important core >> package into Fedora 4 years ago, that means you can forever more push >> any old stuff you want into Fedora, without going back and consulting >> with the community and FESCo. > > "On Qui, 2014-09-04 at 22:12 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > Therefore I'd find it useful for systemd take a break and period of > consolidation to sort out the bugs and impact of systemd on Fedora. " > > yeah this and Chris Adams wrote almost synthesized what I think. > what is the systemd goals ? plans ? roadmap ? seems that systemd want > to be a operating system. You are wasting your time. Lennart and his bunch proved to be impervious to any pleas to stop mad feature creep. They WANT to extend systemd in every imaginable way to scratch their favorite itch of the week. It's not a coincidence or an oversight. That's what they like doing. Possibly, that's the MAIN motivation behind systemd development now - to take over whatever part of the system they want, and enjoy it. And Fedora userbase is their hostages now. Fedora maintainers seem to be okay with it. Fine. In Linux, when all else fails, we can always move to a different distro. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct