On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 12:24 AM, Sérgio Basto <sergio@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Sáb, 2014-09-06 at 22:36 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 10:31:45AM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: >> > On Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 16:11:37 +0100, >> > Sérgio Basto <sergio@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > >Hi, >> > >[1] >> > >since Fedora have some responsibility, unfortunately I think the group >> > >have some valid reasons , systemd should be the replacement of >> > >sysvinit , a built in DHCP !? why ? and others integration like crontab >> > >should be modular, for someone else could use his own crontab . >> > >OTOH , the support of systemd is not good, we got bug opened and they >> > >are ignored as nothing happens, as for example bug >> > >https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1088619 >> > >> > Boycotting systemd seems like a waste of resources. The various >> > legacy init systems have significant problems and staying with them >> > forever isn't going to happen. If there is a large set of people >> > that don't like the direction systemd is going, they should either >> > be constructively participating in the systemd development process >> > or trying to develop another alternative that fixes the problems >> > with legcay init systems while moving in a direction they do want, >> > if they want to accomplish something. I don't expect anything useful >> > to come out of a boycott. >> >> The boycottsystemd website is stupid. > > and completely outdated , gentoo seems that already have systemd and > uclibc-systemd also . Although few arguments, seems to me, valid . > >> However there is a wider problem here. The "systemd of Fedora 14/15" >> is not the systemd of today. > > I agree 100% > >> We need to decide if just because you manage to get an important core >> package into Fedora 4 years ago, that means you can forever more push >> any old stuff you want into Fedora, without going back and consulting >> with the community and FESCo. > > "On Qui, 2014-09-04 at 22:12 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > Therefore I'd find it useful for systemd take a break and period of > consolidation to sort out the bugs and impact of systemd on Fedora. " > > yeah this and Chris Adams wrote almost synthesized what I think. > what is the systemd goals ? plans ? roadmap ? seems that systemd want > to be a operating system. It cannot be an operating system by definition because it does not have a kernel. As for what it is "systemd is a system and service manager for Linux, [...]" [1] i.e it manages the system. 1: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/ -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
