Re: New Group Calls For Boycotting Systemd

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On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 11:36 PM, Richard W.M. Jones <rjones@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 10:31:45AM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 16:11:37 +0100,
>>  Sérgio Basto <sergio@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >Hi,
>> >[1]
>> >since Fedora have some responsibility, unfortunately I think the group
>> >have some valid reasons , systemd should be the replacement of
>> >sysvinit  , a built in DHCP !? why ? and others integration like crontab
>> >should be modular, for someone else could use his own crontab .
>> >OTOH , the support of systemd is not good, we got bug opened and they
>> >are ignored as nothing happens, as for example bug
>> >https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1088619
>>
>> Boycotting systemd seems like a waste of resources. The various
>> legacy init systems have significant problems and staying with them
>> forever isn't going to happen. If there is a large set of people
>> that don't like the direction systemd is going, they should either
>> be constructively participating in the systemd development process
>> or trying to develop another alternative that fixes the problems
>> with legcay init systems while moving in a direction they do want,
>> if they want to accomplish something. I don't expect anything useful
>> to come out of a boycott.
>
> The boycottsystemd website is stupid.
>
> However there is a wider problem here.  The "systemd of Fedora 14/15"
> is not the systemd of today.

Oh really? The $package of Fedora 14/15 is not the $package of today.
(Applies to 90%+ of the packages in the distro).

> We need to decide if just because you manage to get an important core
> package into Fedora 4 years ago, that means you can forever more push
> any old stuff you want into Fedora, without going back and consulting
> with the community and FESCo.

Bigger changes has been filed as separate features / changes and got
approved by FESCo.
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