On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 11:36 PM, Richard W.M. Jones <rjones@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 10:31:45AM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 16:11:37 +0100, >> Sérgio Basto <sergio@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >Hi, >> >[1] >> >since Fedora have some responsibility, unfortunately I think the group >> >have some valid reasons , systemd should be the replacement of >> >sysvinit , a built in DHCP !? why ? and others integration like crontab >> >should be modular, for someone else could use his own crontab . >> >OTOH , the support of systemd is not good, we got bug opened and they >> >are ignored as nothing happens, as for example bug >> >https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1088619 >> >> Boycotting systemd seems like a waste of resources. The various >> legacy init systems have significant problems and staying with them >> forever isn't going to happen. If there is a large set of people >> that don't like the direction systemd is going, they should either >> be constructively participating in the systemd development process >> or trying to develop another alternative that fixes the problems >> with legcay init systems while moving in a direction they do want, >> if they want to accomplish something. I don't expect anything useful >> to come out of a boycott. > > The boycottsystemd website is stupid. > > However there is a wider problem here. The "systemd of Fedora 14/15" > is not the systemd of today. Oh really? The $package of Fedora 14/15 is not the $package of today. (Applies to 90%+ of the packages in the distro). > We need to decide if just because you manage to get an important core > package into Fedora 4 years ago, that means you can forever more push > any old stuff you want into Fedora, without going back and consulting > with the community and FESCo. Bigger changes has been filed as separate features / changes and got approved by FESCo. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct