On Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 10:31:45AM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 16:11:37 +0100, > Sérgio Basto <sergio@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >Hi, > >[1] > >since Fedora have some responsibility, unfortunately I think the group > >have some valid reasons , systemd should be the replacement of > >sysvinit , a built in DHCP !? why ? and others integration like crontab > >should be modular, for someone else could use his own crontab . > >OTOH , the support of systemd is not good, we got bug opened and they > >are ignored as nothing happens, as for example bug > >https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1088619 > > Boycotting systemd seems like a waste of resources. The various > legacy init systems have significant problems and staying with them > forever isn't going to happen. If there is a large set of people > that don't like the direction systemd is going, they should either > be constructively participating in the systemd development process > or trying to develop another alternative that fixes the problems > with legcay init systems while moving in a direction they do want, > if they want to accomplish something. I don't expect anything useful > to come out of a boycott. The boycottsystemd website is stupid. However there is a wider problem here. The "systemd of Fedora 14/15" is not the systemd of today. We need to decide if just because you manage to get an important core package into Fedora 4 years ago, that means you can forever more push any old stuff you want into Fedora, without going back and consulting with the community and FESCo. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones Read my programming and virtualization blog: http://rwmj.wordpress.com virt-builder quickly builds VMs from scratch http://libguestfs.org/virt-builder.1.html -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct