On Sex, 2014-09-12 at 19:08 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > On 09/07/2014 12:24 AM, Sérgio Basto wrote: > >> However there is a wider problem here. The "systemd of Fedora 14/15" > >> is not the systemd of today. > > > > I agree 100% > > > >> We need to decide if just because you manage to get an important core > >> package into Fedora 4 years ago, that means you can forever more push > >> any old stuff you want into Fedora, without going back and consulting > >> with the community and FESCo. > > > > "On Qui, 2014-09-04 at 22:12 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > Therefore I'd find it useful for systemd take a break and period of > > consolidation to sort out the bugs and impact of systemd on Fedora. " > > > > yeah this and Chris Adams wrote almost synthesized what I think. > > what is the systemd goals ? plans ? roadmap ? seems that systemd want > > to be a operating system. > > You are wasting your time. Lennart and his bunch proved to be impervious > to any pleas to stop mad feature creep. > > They WANT to extend systemd in every imaginable way to scratch their > favorite itch of the week. It's not a coincidence or an oversight. > That's what they like doing. Possibly, that's the MAIN motivation > behind systemd development now - to take over whatever part > of the system they want, and enjoy it. > > And Fedora userbase is their hostages now. Fedora maintainers seem > to be okay with it. Fine. > > In Linux, when all else fails, we can always move to a different distro. No, as explain in this thread and other about systemd , (almost) all features have been submit to FESCO, approved and have wiki pages as new features (and others not) etc etc , if you read thread about docker and systemd , you will see that Lennart it self is committed to improve and minimize systemd core ... to be used in containers etc . Although we got many bug (reports) to fix . Best regards -- Sérgio M. B. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
