On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 23:08 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 13:54:27 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > I'm sure the docs team talks about stuff in Rawhide occasionally too; > > Unlike "devel", the docs list is related to Documentation only, isn't it? > > Could you imagine turning "devel" into a less general list? > Is "devel" the catch-all for anything related to arbitrary > "development issues in the Fedora Project"? I tend to think of it as 'the list for people packaging stuff for Fedora', myself. I can't tell you how others think of it, but that seems to map quite well for me. > > Well, yes? The purpose of the test@ list clearly didn't include those > > mails, so they were moved. They are clearly also not appropriate for > > devel@, because they're about QA tooling development. > > Are downtime announcements for AutoQA posted only to that list? I'm not sure. As AutoQA is meant to be a tool for the benefit of packagers, it would make sense to send them to devel@ too; if we're not doing that we probably should. > > > Moving all Rawhide topics, build failures, build report, package version > > > upgrade annoucements, ABI breakage announcements, Branched report, Rawhide > > > report, from devel to test list would be the way to go. > > > > Well, no it wouldn't, because most of those mails are relevant to > > *developers* (or rather, packagers), not testers. Which is why they're > > sent to devel@. Build failures are fixed by packagers. ABI bumps are > > fixed by packagers. The errors identified on the Branched and Rawhide > > reports are fixed by packagers. > > Why are "rawhide report" and "F-20 Branched reported" also sent to > test list? Why the duplication? I could live without 'em being duplicated, really. I think the idea is that testers may want to know what packages have been changed in the previous day. > Why are the F-19 and F-18 updates-testing reports not sent to users list > to raise awareness of what updates may be releases as stable updates in > after a few days already? I don't know; possibly just volume (they're long emails and there's three of 'em a day, I used to find time to try and read them all, these days I just tend to mark 'em as read and move on). But it seems like a reasonable idea. Perhaps someone's worried such long automated mails might scare the users@ audience? I don't read users@, so I don't really know. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct