On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 9:17 AM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> What is the exact symptoms encapsulated in "not shutdown cleanly?" > > "can not connect to systembus" or some "connection refused" > somewhat in this direction apologizes to the list. I meant to ask Adam that in private email, so I could have a reasonable technical discussion devoid of overly emotional responses which seem to be radiating more heat than light at the moment. -jef"Listening to Presto by Rush and finding the lyrics amusingly appropriate for this discussion for some reason"spaleta -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel