On Fri, 2012-02-10 at 18:39 +0100, Michal Schmidt wrote: > On 02/10/2012 06:33 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > It seems pretty common that updating systemd causes problems with the next > > shutdown. I don't know why and it is a pain to reproduce since it doesn't > > happen again on the next reboot. > > Did you see the problem with updates within a stable Fedora release? > Or do you mean updates in Rawhide / Branched? The one-time case - 'the first time you go from systemd X to systemd Y, the system won't shut down cleanly' - does seem to affect stable release upgrades, yeah. But it's a one-time thing, it works fine on all following boots. It would be nice if systemd could eliminate this in future, though. If this is what Harald is referring to, I don't disagree with him, but I thought he was talking about some kind of ongoing bug where he could *never* get an F15 system to shut down properly. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel