On 08/30/2010 07:22 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 10:03, Jesse Keating <jkeating@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 08/28/2010 09:25 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: >>> Jesse Keating wrote: >>>> The cynic in me would expect that the people who want something different >>>> than the fire hose we have now are silently leaving, and those that are >>>> left are going to say they like the deluge of updates. >>> >>> You say that as if it were a negative thing. >> >> To me it is. It's you and people like you that want to shove a ton of >> updates down the throats of our stable release users (including changes >> that alter behavior and sonames etc...) that have ruined the Fedora I >> helped to build. I want my Fedora back, I don't want what you're creating. > > The problem to quote a tv philosopher is: > > The avalanche has already started, it is too late for the pebbles to vote. > > The changes towards a distribution that attracts people who live in > the moment happened a while back, and has been building momentum for > quite some time. Trying to erect barriers now is not going to help but > make it so nothing exists afterwords. The things that can be done are: > A) get out of the way, B) go with the flow, or C) figure out what you > can build on top of it. [I am looking at option C] The pressure to stabilize is a much needed-correction to the pressure to innovate. Consider what happens without any such back-pressure. Those who can no longer stand the churn leave, with only the hard-core bleeding- edgers remaining. The churn gets faster. Then, even some of those who were the previous generation of bleeding-edgers can't cope, and they leave. Left behind, are the *serious* hard core. Etc... This is a classic case of unrestrained positive feedback, just like thermal runaway. In my view, this is exactly the situation we're in at the moment, but some people are trying to apply a correction to prevent the distro burning out. It is not too late. Andrew. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
