On Mon, 2010-08-30 at 12:22 -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > The avalanche has already started, it is too late for the pebbles to vote. > > The changes towards a distribution that attracts people who live in > the moment happened a while back, and has been building momentum for > quite some time. Trying to erect barriers now is not going to help but > make it so nothing exists afterwords. The things that can be done are: > A) get out of the way, B) go with the flow, or C) figure out what you > can build on top of it. [I am looking at option C] > > > We've found our niche, but chasing away our previous niche (and having > > less users show up in our tracking mechanism for it) It's getting to > > the point where me, as a long time Fedora developer and sometimes > > leader, is not enjoying using Fedora any more. Every update run can > > What was our previous niche? That is what people seemed so hard to > ever quantify beyond knowing "what it isn't". The people I know who > are running Ubuntu now instead of RHL or Fedora are doing it because > that distribution 'fills in the blanks' for them that RHL/Fedora never > seemed to answer. It has a vision, it has a single voice where they > feel it is needed. Fedora has never been that. (heck even RHL was > never that as you couldn't get any of the RH developers to agree on > much :)). > I think the RHL niche was: 1. reasonably current 2. updated to a new release every 6months 3. supported for security/errata for 3yrs 4. free -sv -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel