Orion Poplawski wrote: > I certainly can't see the need for it to appear in F11 (isn't the fact > that someone hasn't bothered upgrading to F12 indication that they are > looking for a little stability?). We're evaluating the option of not doing the updates for the oldstable [1] releases. We can see the rationale: * people who haven't upgraded to the current stable might indeed also not want a newer KDE, * updates for the oldstable release also tend to get much fewer testing, * people can always upgrade to the current stable release to get the current KDE, * it limits the big KDE upgrades to 1/release instead of 2/release as now, but it also has drawbacks: * it means we have to maintain 2 separate KDE sets, or even 3 when we import prereleases of the next KDE into Rawhide, instead of the current 1 or 2, * there's the issue of bugfixes: - not all bugfixes are backported to the stable branch upstream, sometimes they can't be backported upstream because they require e.g. a new Qt, because they add translatable strings or for whatever reason, - upstream stops releasing 4.n.x bugfix releases as they release 4.n+1.0, => therefore, upgrading to 4.n+1 is the easiest way, and sometimes the only practical one, to get those bugfixes. We'd be stuck with either bugs no longer getting fixed or us having to massively backport bugfixes, which I'm not convinced we have the manpower for (I don't think any distro has, really; those distros which don't do upgrades backport only select few bugfixes, sometimes only security fixes). The question is: is this a price we want to pay? I always feel bad for leaving issues unsolved, but of course introducing new issues is also not a nice thing to do. ;-) Personally, I'm not convinced that not upgrading is a good idea (e.g. I used F9 until EOL and 4.2 was really great there, then I went to F10 and used that until its EOL with 4.3 and that also worked great), but this option IS being evaluated in KDE SIG. [1] Yes, I'm stealing Debian terminology here. ;-) Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel