Mike McGrath wrote: > Just so you can't ever use this argument again. I want fewer updates and > I'm a Fedora user. IMHO you're really using the wrong distro. ;-) My point is that there are plenty of users who want the current updates or even more updates. And whereas the people like you have plenty of other choices, those users have very few choices, Fedora is the main one. See e.g. the strongly positive feedback we got from some users for our KDE 4.4.0 update (and I'm sure there are many more happy users who just don't bother sending a "Thanks, you rule!" type mail). I realize you're enthousiastic about Fedora, being actively involved in it, and would like it to be closer to your personal taste or needs, but doing that would really be throwing out the baby with the bathwater! > If I want lots of updates, I'd use rawhide. That doesn't fit the requirements of the group of users I think we should target (of which I'm part, but I can assure you I'm far from the only one in that group). Rawhide is frequently broken. We want frequent updates, but filtered to include only the stuff which isn't broken and which also doesn't break things for users, e.g. cause surprise backwards-incompatible changes to config file formats, data formats etc. Except for the occasional (very rare) screwup, our stable updates are like that. Even updates-testing is already too bleeding-edgy. Rawhide is not a solution. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel