I wrote: > At the rate of one update per month to every GNOME package? PS: Some stats: Over the lifetime of F9 (which is now almost over, that's why I picked F9): * libgnome was not updated a single time (!) (it was updated a single time in F10 with 2 packaging-only changes, but never in F9). * kdelibs was updated 18 times, the last time was 2009-06-19. Another example (still F9): * evince got updated a single time on 2008-06-10 (to a bugfix release). * kdegraphics got updated 13 times, last on 2009-06-19, several of those updates fixed bugs, added features and/or updated translations (in matching kde-l10n updates) for Okular (the KDE equivalent of Evince), though I don't have the exact number (due to how KDE is distributed by upstream). I'll stop here because I think you got the point. The stats for F10 and F11 so far don't look much better for GNOME, and I don't think I picked the wrong packages for a comparison. (If you think I did, feel free to suggest others.) Kevin Kofler -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list