Re: Consider tuned-gui as an important element for "advanced" users on the Fedora Workstation

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I must apologize, because I have not replied to the correct comments.

Let me try again :)

On 28/07/16 13:50, Bastien Nocera wrote:


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On 28/07/16 00:13, Chris Murphy wrote:

(the right way to fix this would be to get information on how connected
standby
works on Intel machines, and implement that, not holding my breath
though)


The solution should not be H/W dependent.
I have the same laptop since 2012 and I do not have light sensors for
example. Should I not have the option to set this manually?


Here you say that connected standby is the correct solution (agreed), but it is not available right now.

So then why change the previous behavior, where there was a setting to allow the system to go to sleep or not, since the new system is not in place? If connected standby was in place, then *a lot* less people would complain, because the reason people need to turn off the auto sleep at lid close is when they want their laptop to be physically inaccessible (by a cat for example) and connected at the same time. This is 99% of the use cases that connected standby solves, but since it is not available yet, why remove the option to turn off sleep?
How many burnt laptops where reported in bugzilla to justify this change?

We have screen brightness, auto lock and auto sleep configurations in GNOME,
right now. There's no separate brightness configuration for AC/battery on
any mobile platform that I know of, neither is there any on macOS.


I misunderstood, sorry.

When you say, not you but Bastien, that users hated the auto dimming in
Gnome2 for example, you are hiding the fact that there was a way for the
user to change this behavior.

Why would we keep a feature that appeared broken, and would want disabled
by default?

Again I misunderstood, sorry.

We listen to feedback from our users (and customers), and we haven't had
a single person want separate brightness settings for battery and mains
power. In fact, they wanted the brightness to stay the same when they
plugged or unplugged their systems. Which is what we implemented.

I know that you listen to customers.
This is why Gnome3 in RHEL includes tweak tool for example :)

Abis.

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