----- Original Message ----- > El 21-07-2016 11:07, Bastien Nocera escribió: > > > > No, it means that we don't show things that: > > 1) don't match use cases we're interested in > > 2) are work-arounds for particular use cases instead of properly > > designed fixes > > 3) are necessary for deployments, but not for individual users > > > > If you think there are settings that are in gnome-tweak-tool should be > > available > > in the main Settings panel, file a bug against gnome-control-center > > upstream, > > and we'll consider it (if it hasn't already been). > > > > GNOME is the default DE in fedora workstation and is the desktop > environment that display the more basic energy options and does not > allow dynamic configuration. Dynamic configuration of *what*? > For example, the only option to distinguish > between a device with or without a battery is the suspension system. Just what did you reasonably expect to do differently on battery vs. on mains? > Moreover, several development cycles ago, there are no notifications > power status (AC, battery charged, battery critical load, etc.) > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=747887 that are basic to a > user on the desktop and are only available by editing upower settings. There are notifications. Did you disable them in the Notifications panel by any chance? > Also to enable battery percentage display must go to dconf-editor. -_-' Yeah, evil GNOME that moved code from extensions into the core gnome-shell, grrr. (I'm the one who added the functionality, the designers weren't interested in having the configuration option in the Power settings for now. It also pleases me to see that whatever efforts I make isn't ever going to be enough) > > We don't insult our users' intelligence, we just don't show settings > > that only > > benefit a very small minority of our users, especially when that very > > small minority > > I still remember the resistance GNOME team not to include energy options > to close the lid of the laptop, luckily we now have the option to tweak > tool ... > > Office runner was it a solution? I do not believe it. It was a work-around. I think you've been misled thinking that this was only a GNOME thing. GNOME, systemd, and kernel developers all agreed on making closing the lid suspend the laptop. And while I enjoy getting dragged in the mud as much as the other guy, I'm very very rarely making executive decisions about design or behaviour with respect to hardware. Done? Then I'll reiterate that I don't want tuned-gui in the default Workstation installation. > > is part of the existing Fedora and GNOME users that already know about > > the "TweakUI" > > tools available. > > -- > > desktop mailing list > > desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
