Re: Consider tuned-gui as an important element for "advanced" users on the Fedora Workstation

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El 22-07-2016 09:08, Bastien Nocera escribió:

GNOME is the default DE in fedora workstation and is the desktop
environment that display the more basic energy options and does not
allow dynamic configuration.

Dynamic configuration of *what*?


...Power settings. Other DE and other platforms allow to configure the individual behavior of the screen and system (AC power vs Battery) for example. Believe me, that helps a lot to the basic power control in a laptop.

For example, the only option to distinguish
between a device with or without a battery is the suspension system.

Just what did you reasonably expect to do differently on battery vs. on mains?


Of course! xfc4-power-manager could be simpler, but has the options a user would expect a power panel.

Moreover, several development cycles ago, there are no notifications
power status (AC, battery charged, battery critical load, etc.)
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=747887 that are basic to a
user on the desktop and are only available by editing upower settings.

There are notifications. Did you disable them in the Notifications panel by
any chance?


No, not even the power option does not appear in the notification panel.

Also to enable battery percentage display must go to dconf-editor. -_-'

Yeah, evil GNOME that moved code from extensions into the core
gnome-shell, grrr.


👍

(I'm the one who added the functionality, the designers weren't interested in having the configuration option in the Power settings for now. It also pleases
me to see that whatever efforts I make isn't ever going to be enough)


👍

> We don't insult our users' intelligence, we just don't show settings
> that only
> benefit a very small minority of our users, especially when that very
> small minority

I still remember the resistance GNOME team not to include energy options to close the lid of the laptop, luckily we now have the option to tweak
tool ...

Office runner was it a solution? I do not believe it.

It was a work-around. I think you've been misled thinking that this was only a GNOME thing. GNOME, systemd, and kernel developers all agreed on making
closing the lid suspend the laptop.


It is strange because the problem existed only in GNOME.

And while I enjoy getting dragged in the mud as much as the other guy, I'm very very rarely making executive decisions about design or behaviour with
respect to hardware.


I think nobody has blamed you, this is a general discussion thread on a topic related to energy settings...

Done? Then I'll reiterate that I don't want tuned-gui in the default Workstation
installation.


Ok, but the thread is not about that.

> is part of the existing Fedora and GNOME users that already know about
> the "TweakUI"
> tools available.
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