Re: Dropping i686 media for F24

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On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 09:37:46 +0100, Adam Williamson <adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Wed, 2016-01-20 at 15:39 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 3:15 PM, Adam Williamson
<adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Wed, 2016-01-20 at 09:24 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 09:01:47AM -0500, Christian Schaller wrote:
> > > My hope that for F24 our download is not an iso image, but rather
> > > USB-creator. We could try to build some kind of GPU detection into
> > > USB creator to have it choose a 64 bit image if the CPU supports it,
> > > and maybe that would help reduce our 32 bit numbers.
> >
> > Is there a change proposal filed for this? It's definitely the kind of
> > thing which warrants it, for communication with the web and
> > infrastructure teams, and for marketing.
> >
> > The USB creator, presumably, is a small download, which then itself
> > does download of the ISO? I assume it's packaged as an installer for
> > Windows and OS X -- what about for Linux? (Either for existing Fedora
> > users or distro-hoppers?)
>
> I think he's talking about liveusb-creator, in which case yes, this is
> more or less what it is. I would be leery about making luc the 'main'
> download for Workstation given its current abilities and the resources
> currently devoted to it, though. In my experience it's the least
> reliable of the 'official' USB writing mechanisms, after dd-style
> writes (most reliable) and livecd-iso-to-disk. I'm also not sure if we
> have a packaging of luc for non-Fedora distros or OS X.

Yeah but does luc do GPU detection,

No, but Christian wrote "we could try to build" that, he didn't say we
already had it.

 or download ISOs? I thought you
had to point it to an ISO file.

luc does do downloads - you *can* point it at a file, but it also has
both a built-in list of images it can download and write, and a remote
URL it queries for an updated list when you hit a 'refresh' button (it
should really pull the list on startup if you're connected to the
internet, but it doesn't, I tried to fix this once and failed, maybe I
should take another shot).

Hey,
I've been working on the facelift for a while now.
I think most of this leering is caused by the fact it's not promoted very well (except a bunch of mails to Desktop and Devel lists I sent in the past). Except not being able to add a (buggy) permanent overlay for your files, it has every feature of the old tool and it works better - and it actually has the up-to-date list of Fedora Products/Spins/Labs. There are some URLs [0] with videos [2] and packages [1] in the bottom of this mail. It is packaged for Fedora of course (but the new version is just in my COPR - However. I'm planning to push it to updates-testing for some early adopters). Windows builds from Linux are possible (and available) too. Currently, I'm writing a Mac backend to the tool, which is kinda challenging provided there's no up-to-date version of syslinux. It's possible we'll be able to only dd on Mac. Anyway as always, I'm open to every kind of feedback so please hit me with anything you have on mind.

Martin

[0] https://github.com/lmacken/liveusb-creator
[1] https://copr.fedoraproject.org/coprs/mbriza/liveusb-creator/
[2] https://mbriza.fedorapeople.org/liveusb-11.ogv - a bit old, there is a couple of things missing, like the information on what release are you going to download
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