Re: google removing basic html access, alternatives?

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As stated, if sent to the alternative email address, and not a cell phone, that would not be the worst thing. Honestly I am considering finding a way to export both gmail inboxes somewhere after I get access again.



On Mon, 20 Nov 2023, Jude DaShiell wrote:

It's a prompt notification gmail sends you each time you log on and it has
a yes and no button hitting the yes button gets you access to your
account.
Two factor authentication has been cracked regularly by the bad actors on
the internet.  I think it was stormdragon2976 that wrote fleacollar.sh and
I have what's probably an outdated copy of it around here somewhere.


-- Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in
defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that
order." Ed Howdershelt 1940.

On Mon, 20 Nov 2023, Karen Lewellen wrote:

fleacollar? laughs!
seriously,  unless that cell phone process is voice only, that door is a
closed one, if it has to be done often.
When I lost access to my research gmail account lewellen.kd@xxxxxxxxx, I set
up mail forwarding.  only to have items flagged as spam that I could not,
still cannot reach.
For the inbox I lost access to  this morning, my need is greater, access to
its contents for the files  stored there.
lost that with the mail forwarding door as well.
Kare


On Mon, 20 Nov 2023, Jude DaShiell wrote:

Gmail always has AllMail which is everything that comes at anyone in gmail
and everything that goes out to everyone in gmail, the inbox and all other
labels are subsets of AllMail.
For would-be mutt users, a script found in some versions of mutt is called
fleacollar.sh intended to make proper setup of mutt less pain-filled.
If use of gmail is a must have, you'll need to enable two factor
authentication which means you need to provide your cell phone number for
two factor authentication and then generate an app-password to use it.

Another alternative would be to log into your google account and arrange
to have everything forwarded to a different email address off gmail in
some future date.  This way for the stuff coming at you you'd never need
to touch gmail again.
Pre-existing content of AllMail could be pulled onto that other email
address with offline-imap.


-- Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in
defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that
order." Ed Howdershelt 1940.

On Tue, 21 Nov 2023, 'Ishe Chinyoka' via blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:

Hi,

I use mutt and gmail. What I can say is that, first you need to enable
two-factor on your Gmail account. Then, second, you have to generate an
app password for mutt. Having copied the generated password, you have to
set up both an Imap and msmtp utilities such as offlineimap for fetching
the mail, and msmtp for sending the mail. Of course, I understand mutt
can handle both these operations, so you can set up in the .muttrc, but
as for me I use other external programmes for doing just that.

What I did was to set up the ~/.netrc file where I stored my login
credentials so both offlineimap and msmtp use this .netrc to read the
gmail app password.

As for mutt accessibility, as a text mail handler, it is just fine. You
can use vim for composing your messages.

Anyway, mutt has many configuration items. The mutt manual is detailed
in how each of these settings affect the behaviour of mutt itself. I
hope others can chip in. But I just wanted to help on how I set up mutt
with gmail on my machine.

Be blessed,


Ishe





Karen Lewellen <klewellen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

Hi,
my problem though is that I need access to the inbox contents entirely,
not just to forward.
The Debian list  is currently discussing things like mutt with gmail, and
imap as an alternative.
Apparently this bypasses the security problems with gmail in general?
And yes, I send from it too..agree that hosting your own mail has
positives.

Thanks,
Karen



On Mon, 20 Nov 2023, Jason J.G. White wrote:


On 20/11/23 17:30, Karen Lewellen wrote:
 Anyone use  mutt that can lend documentation, or a hand?

I'm familiar with Mutt, but not with using it with Gmail. In particular,
it
is my understanding that authentication is more complicated now than it
used
to be, due to Google's security policies.

This article seems to be a reasonably up to date starting point:
https://www.thetechedvocate.org/how-to-install-and-configure-mutt-with-gmail-on-linux/

I have a GMail account, but it's configured to forward everything to one
of
my "real" e-mail accounts, and I don't use it to send messages. My Mutt
configuration is et up to work with mail on my own server.







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