Re: google removing basic html access, alternatives?

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Gmail always has AllMail which is everything that comes at anyone in gmail
and everything that goes out to everyone in gmail, the inbox and all other
labels are subsets of AllMail.
For would-be mutt users, a script found in some versions of mutt is called
fleacollar.sh intended to make proper setup of mutt less pain-filled.
If use of gmail is a must have, you'll need to enable two factor
authentication which means you need to provide your cell phone number for
two factor authentication and then generate an app-password to use it.

Another alternative would be to log into your google account and arrange
to have everything forwarded to a different email address off gmail in
some future date.  This way for the stuff coming at you you'd never need
to touch gmail again.
Pre-existing content of AllMail could be pulled onto that other email
address with offline-imap.


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On Tue, 21 Nov 2023, 'Ishe Chinyoka' via blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I use mutt and gmail. What I can say is that, first you need to enable
> two-factor on your Gmail account. Then, second, you have to generate an
> app password for mutt. Having copied the generated password, you have to
> set up both an Imap and msmtp utilities such as offlineimap for fetching
> the mail, and msmtp for sending the mail. Of course, I understand mutt
> can handle both these operations, so you can set up in the .muttrc, but
> as for me I use other external programmes for doing just that.
>
> What I did was to set up the ~/.netrc file where I stored my login
> credentials so both offlineimap and msmtp use this .netrc to read the
> gmail app password.
>
> As for mutt accessibility, as a text mail handler, it is just fine. You
> can use vim for composing your messages.
>
> Anyway, mutt has many configuration items. The mutt manual is detailed
> in how each of these settings affect the behaviour of mutt itself. I
> hope others can chip in. But I just wanted to help on how I set up mutt
> with gmail on my machine.
>
> Be blessed,
>
>
> Ishe
>
>
>
>
>
> Karen Lewellen <klewellen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>
> > Hi,
> > my problem though is that I need access to the inbox contents entirely,
> > not just to forward.
> > The Debian list  is currently discussing things like mutt with gmail, and
> > imap as an alternative.
> > Apparently this bypasses the security problems with gmail in general?
> > And yes, I send from it too..agree that hosting your own mail has
> > positives.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Karen
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 20 Nov 2023, Jason J.G. White wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On 20/11/23 17:30, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> >>>  Anyone use  mutt that can lend documentation, or a hand?
> >>>
> >> I'm familiar with Mutt, but not with using it with Gmail. In particular, it
> >> is my understanding that authentication is more complicated now than it used
> >> to be, due to Google's security policies.
> >>
> >> This article seems to be a reasonably up to date starting point:
> >> https://www.thetechedvocate.org/how-to-install-and-configure-mutt-with-gmail-on-linux/
> >>
> >> I have a GMail account, but it's configured to forward everything to one of
> >> my "real" e-mail accounts, and I don't use it to send messages. My Mutt
> >> configuration is et up to work with mail on my own server.
> >>
> >>
>
>

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