Re: Language and locale selection

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On Jul 23, 2013, at 5:36 AM, Máirín Duffy <duffy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I wonder if users who are used to never engaging with
> this language selection will get upset that now they have to?

I think there's a consequence for the testers and QA folks who will have to go through this many, many times. But for everyone else it's probably minor.

On Jul 23, 2013, at 3:53 PM, Máirín Duffy <duffy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On 07/23/2013 05:44 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>> What about side by side: language and form (the regional variant). Advantage is, a default setting can be shown — seems unclear how to show a default without them side by side, because the default shown should be the form. If the language is entirely wrong, that means the user has to depend on the Back button, which is completely non-obvious and not understandable even to some English speakers.
> 
> If you read further up the thread you'll see that was explored. If you
> have ideas on how to tweak that idea to be better in practice though
> it'd surely be helpful!

It'd be a rather long list to list all language+locale, but it's less clutter. I'm unconvinced two lists make it much easier/faster for the user to make a choice, rather than one long list, compared to appearing on two pages.

Is there a clear benefit to establishing region/locale at install time? Or a clear negative of not doing so? Is there some way to infer likely locale based on language+timezone, assume that, while offering the user a place to change it (again does the change need to be possible in the installer?)

I know that OS X and Windows installers only allow the user to specify a language, not locale. It's a rather short list. The user isn't ever asked for locale (during or post install or first boot), but they can change region independent of time zone and language. Anyway, I don't mean to indicate it should be done like OS X or Windows, if they're doing something ineffective that produces an undesired result, by all means Fedora should do better. Being English speaking in the U.S. I never run into problems due to the U.S. English default in all three products, so I'm unaware of what problems people in other places are experiencing.


Chris Murphy


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