Re: Coexistence of TDE and KDE

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On 2023-03-10 20:04:25 Michael via tde-users wrote:
> On Friday 10 March 2023 03:23:18 pm Chris Austin via tde-users wrote:
> > On Thursday 09 Mar 2023 21:21:58 Dave Close via tde-users wrote:
> > > I made these comments in response to a different topic and suspect
> > > they were overlooked as a result. Hence, another attempt. On a Fedora
> > > 37 system with KDE (5) working, I installed TDE. All of it except
> > > the applications.
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> AFAIK all of TDE has been re-named so that it does not interfere with, or
> is interfered by, KDE.  Slávek would have the definitive answer.
>
> I’m going to guess that not installing all of TDE caused the odd behavior. 
> I would try creating a live USB (Fedora 37 w/ KDE5) and then install all of
> TDE to it for testing.
>
> > > Having KDE 5 installed before installing TDE seems to have resulted
> > > in some confusion. The DE startup splash screen, for example, says it
> > > is starting Plasma by KDE. Once started, it does appear to actually
> > > be TDE.
>
> That would be normal until you re-configure the startup splash screen from
> using KDE to using TDE's [login manager?]  (I don't know the actual name of
> that).
	Here's what my openSUSE system, which uses update-alternatives to switch between multiple 
applications, shows:
| ~
| ● update-alternatives --config default-displaymanager
| There are 5 choices for the alternative default-displaymanager 
(providing /usr/lib/X11/displaymanagers/default-displaymanager).
|
|   Selection    Path                                  Priority   Status
| ------------------------------------------------------------
| * 0            /usr/lib/X11/displaymanagers/tdm       30        auto mode
|   1            /usr/lib/X11/displaymanagers/console   5         manual mode
|   2            /usr/lib/X11/displaymanagers/gdm       25        manual mode
|   3            /usr/lib/X11/displaymanagers/lightdm   15        manual mode
|   4            /usr/lib/X11/displaymanagers/tdm       30        manual mode
|   5            /usr/lib/X11/displaymanagers/xdm       10        manual mode
|
| Press <enter> to keep the current choice[*], or type selection number:
| @22:14:55,root@pinto rc=0

	Even if your system doesn't use update-alternatives, you should find a displaymanagers 
subdirectory somewhere in your system.  Perhaps you'll have to look for "kdm" in your 
library directories?

Leslie
>
> > > But some parts of TDE don't work as expected. For example, the TDE
> > > Control Center doesn't start if selected from the start menu. Nothing
> > > at all happens. Starting kcontrol from a shell does start what appears
> > > to be the program but nothing in it works. On exit, the shell reports,
> > > "WARNING: No TDE menu group with X-TDE-BaseGroup=settings found |
> > > Defaulting to Settings/".
> > >
> > > Is this sort of installation expected to work? Would it have been
> > > better to start with a fresh install?
> >
> > I am using TDE installed after KDE-4 all the time, and I love it.  I can
> > get the best of both worlds, using KDE-4 apps in TDE when I prefer them
> > to the Trinity versions, and using the Trinity versions when I prefer
> > them. However this is an old system, installed around March 2017, with
> > Trinity installed over a late Debian Jessie system that came with KDE-4. 
> > I installed TDM, so that is what I log in with.  I actually work in TDE
> > all the time, unless I have to use one of two programs that used not to
> > work in Trinity.  I just started one of those programs, Geomview, in
> > Trinity just now, and to my surprise, it opened some windows.  So perhaps
> > I might even be able to use that in Trinity now.
>
> I've done this in the past as well.  I do remember that a few programs
> would only not cause problems if the were run in a different Desktop (which
> I thought was weird, but 'eh, it worked).
>
> Best,
> Michael
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Platform:		GNU/Linux
Hardware:		x86_64
Distribution:		openSUSE Leap 15.4
Desktop Environment:	Trinity
	Qt:		3.5.0
	TDE:		R14.0.13
	tde-config:	1.0
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