On Tuesday 29 of June 2021 20:34:27 Hunter via tde-users wrote: > Good morning everybody =) > > I'd like to ask, does anyone *actually* use Konqueror to regularly > browse the internet? I have used no better file manager than Konqueror > but the web aspect seems to be hindered. I don't think its a fault of > Konqueror itself but the way web design has changed. You can test this > yourself by using wiby.me (an early web design search engine) and > looking at sites indexed on it. These usually display fine in Konqueror, > but when you go to a modern website like DuckDuckGo for example it > doesn't display properly at all. It's a bummer since Konqueror is one of > the hallmarks of TDE for me, although I don't know much about the web > browser (KHTML) aspect I believe its integrated into some Trinity > applications which is a really nice feature. I first really thought of > this when I used KlamAV's virus browser function (which I assume is > using KHTML integrated) but Trend Micro website (being that it's likely > changed a lot) doesn't display properly. > > For the time being I'm using SeaMonkey since my usual browser, Pale > Moon, does not take too kindly to *BSD.. And since it's a suite with a > mail client as well I'm not using Kmail. I might switch to Firefox, but > if there is any way to use Konqueror I would love to. There's so many > options that far outweigh most dedicated web browsers such as its > adblock filters and the ability to disable JavaScript which gets rid of > any need for an add-on like uBlock Origin. I completely understand that > working on it to display modern web pages is probably too difficult > since Trinity's KHTML/Konqueror is older, this is just me dreaming here. > Ideally I'd like to be able to make full use of a TDE web browser and > the applications that work with it =) > > - Hunter aka hunter0one > ____________________________________________________ Although it may seem suspicious, Konqueror is my primary browser. Only if the page does not appear usable, I open it in Pale Moon. Chromium or Chrome I only use for (crazy) MS Teams or (significantly better) Jitsi meet - for example, on https://meet.vpsfree.cz. I am aware that some CSS are not displayed correctly, but fortunately it often does not reduce the readability of the pages. And the fact that HTML5 things do not work properly, as well as the "modern" JavaScript pages often keeps me away from "amazing" ads and other "necessary" things, which I don't mind at all. For me it is great that Konqueror opens / closes greatly faster than any "modern" browser. And for many things I need, Konqueror works well. I definitely disagree with the statement that Konqueror is the worst web browser ever created. The fact that Webkit originated as fork of KHTML confirms that the basis was definitely good. Sure, I would like Konqueror could be used also for modern web pages - for example, to use WebKit engine instead of old KHTML/TDEHTML. Here we must consider not only due to CSS, but mainly due to JavaScript. For example, to be able to use TGW in Konqueror. But definitely I'm not a supporter of removing web browsing capability from Konqueror. I use it every day, so there doesn't make sense to want to shoot into my own feet. What makes for me sense is to consider whether to go the way to integrate webkit engine or porting functionality from webkit back to tdehtml. The problem is that we do not have enough time and programmers who could do it. Cheers -- Slávek
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