On 2021-06-29 18:46:04 Slávek Banko via tde-users wrote: > On Tuesday 29 of June 2021 20:34:27 Hunter via tde-users wrote: > > Good morning everybody =) > > > > I'd like to ask, does anyone *actually* use Konqueror to regularly > > browse the internet? I have used no better file manager than Konqueror > > but the web aspect seems to be hindered. I don't think its a fault of > > Konqueror itself but the way web design has changed. You can test this > > yourself by using wiby.me (an early web design search engine) and > > looking at sites indexed on it. These usually display fine in Konqueror, > > but when you go to a modern website like DuckDuckGo for example it > > doesn't display properly at all. It's a bummer since Konqueror is one of > > the hallmarks of TDE for me, although I don't know much about the web > > browser (KHTML) aspect I believe its integrated into some Trinity > > applications which is a really nice feature. I first really thought of > > this when I used KlamAV's virus browser function (which I assume is > > using KHTML integrated) but Trend Micro website (being that it's likely > > changed a lot) doesn't display properly. > > > > For the time being I'm using SeaMonkey since my usual browser, Pale > > Moon, does not take too kindly to *BSD.. And since it's a suite with a > > mail client as well I'm not using Kmail. I might switch to Firefox, but > > if there is any way to use Konqueror I would love to. There's so many > > options that far outweigh most dedicated web browsers such as its > > adblock filters and the ability to disable JavaScript which gets rid of > > any need for an add-on like uBlock Origin. I completely understand that > > working on it to display modern web pages is probably too difficult > > since Trinity's KHTML/Konqueror is older, this is just me dreaming here. > > Ideally I'd like to be able to make full use of a TDE web browser and > > the applications that work with it =) > > > > - Hunter aka hunter0one > > ____________________________________________________ > > Although it may seem suspicious, Konqueror is my primary browser. Only if > the page does not appear usable, I open it in Pale Moon. Chromium or > Chrome I only use for (crazy) MS Teams or (significantly better) Jitsi > meet - for example, on https://meet.vpsfree.cz. > > I am aware that some CSS are not displayed correctly, but fortunately it > often does not reduce the readability of the pages. And the fact that > HTML5 things do not work properly, as well as the "modern" JavaScript > pages often keeps me away from "amazing" ads and other "necessary" things, > which I don't mind at all. For me it is great that Konqueror opens / > closes greatly faster than any "modern" browser. And for many things I > need, Konqueror works well. > > I definitely disagree with the statement that Konqueror is the worst web > browser ever created. The fact that Webkit originated as fork of KHTML > confirms that the basis was definitely good. > > Sure, I would like Konqueror could be used also for modern web pages - for > example, to use WebKit engine instead of old KHTML/TDEHTML. Here we must > consider not only due to CSS, but mainly due to JavaScript. For example, > to be able to use TGW in Konqueror. But definitely I'm not a supporter of > removing web browsing capability from Konqueror. I use it every day, so > there doesn't make sense to want to shoot into my own feet. What makes for > me sense is to consider whether to go the way to integrate webkit engine > or porting functionality from webkit back to tdehtml. The problem is that > we do not have enough time and programmers who could do it. > > Cheers This is slightly off-topic, but can you tell me what, if any, functionality the Konqueror configuration for Plugins provides? Particularly, where does one acquire Netscape plugins these days? Leslie -- Operating System: Linux Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.3 x86_64 Desktop Environment: Trinity Qt: 3.5.0 TDE: R14.0.10 tde-config: 1.0 ____________________________________________________ tde-users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx